tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7671796277525081500.post9184764454704614285..comments2023-10-24T11:19:29.497+01:00Comments on chris horn's blog: Open source and the Enterprisechris horn @chrisjhornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03562424333768625107noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7671796277525081500.post-30186916748040194612007-03-24T16:14:00.000+00:002007-03-24T16:14:00.000+00:00The issue is indeed how to convert downloads to bu...The issue is indeed how to convert downloads to bucks. If you visit www.iona.com you'll see free tech support offered for 30 days which is a lead in to folks signing up if they want for full support. Gives a chance to road-test how good the support is before signing up.chris horn @chrisjhornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03562424333768625107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7671796277525081500.post-80015404037762494552007-03-24T05:05:00.000+00:002007-03-24T05:05:00.000+00:00Chris,I like the "Naked open source" concept and a...Chris,<BR/>I like the "Naked open source" concept and agree that without the additional source, wrapping, repacking, hand-holding most enterprise are not interested.<BR/><BR/>You blend of Celtix and Artix seems 2b the right match. Time will tell.<BR/>But glad 2 c a major IRL company putting their time/resoures behind OSS. In some sense its inevitable but without figuring out how to support it (and gain finacially) u are dead.The Lalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14603940704800084635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7671796277525081500.post-3715873489080592082007-02-26T13:06:00.000+00:002007-02-26T13:06:00.000+00:00Hi Chris! good to read your blog.'Roll on to toda...Hi Chris! good to read your blog.<BR/><BR/>'Roll on to today. Is open source the weapon to displace incumbent enterprise software by disruption from below ?'<BR/><BR/>Definitely! I'm now using exactly that technique with Apache SpamAssassin, which cannibalised a *huge* portion of the anti-spam mail filtering market a few years ago. Disruption from below worked very nicely there ;) (Not sure if large-scale mail filtering really qualifies as "enterprise", but I'd guess it's close depending on scale.)<BR/><BR/>Regarding open-source and the lack of a roadmap approach: you state that 'it is in general quite rare to be presented with a road map for an open source project, going out over a couple of years or so, because in general there is no long term responsibility for the project.'<BR/><BR/>I would suggest that this is a side-effect of how most open source is developed, rather than being due to a lack of long-term responsibility. To be frank, roadmaps and deadlines are a source of pain for most coders, and they'd prefer to avoid them if that were possible. Of course, in the traditional commercial software development model, it's not possible -- but in a fully coder-driven open source project, there may be no paying customers to satisfy, and the coders can plan project activities exactly the way they prefer, ditching the roadmap if they feel like it. (Of course, this isn't necessarily great for users of the software. ;)<BR/><BR/>Once you're talking about "enterprise open source" (whatever that may be), it might be possible to impose roadmaps as a requirement, though...<BR/><BR/>Re IP: 'many European Union funded projects typically have an expectation, as a first call, of commercial exploitation.' <BR/><BR/>To be honest, I think this expectation needs to be fixed. A similar problem arises with a lot of academic work nowadays, where some institutions expect research to produce commercially-exploitable proprietary IP, especially in the US since the Bayh-Dole Act. I've already run into problems with open-source contributions caused by these clauses...Justin Masonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16955170493368020909noreply@blogger.com